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    Keep in touch, remember our emails - we may be able to help each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistolero Films
    Keep in touch, remember our emails - we may be able to help each other.

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    Oh don't worry I have not forgotten, drop me a line on my email to let me know how things are going

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    bravo! that was an amazing flick, man keep em comin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aftertheearth
    bravo! that was an amazing flick, man keep em comin
    Oh don't worry, Survivors is coming back...soon...

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    i did not like your film at all, there were just so many things wrong with it.

    *the camera and editing comes to mind instantly, the constant distortion in sound is heard during the entire movie and becomes distracting when you cut to different characters. and im pretty sure i heard the camera man breathing on more then one occasion.

    *read a book on cinematography there were times characters were completely washed in white and others times in black.

    *the biggest complaint i have is with the script and story, first off most of the characters are just plain not nice and i find it hard to feel for them. i cant even remember their names they were that forgetable, ill just refer to them by the characteristics you felt necessary to distinguish them with.

    angry bitch - that goth chick who acted like she had a stick up her ass the entire movie SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE MAIN CHARACTER which she clearly was, there was one point were she says something stupid like 'i cant believe your turning on me' or some **** like that, well no **** it may have just dawned on you that people dont like angry goth bitches who think the are better then everyone else. or those 5 minutes she spent trying to convince A MENTALLY RETARDED PERSON something and got angry that she didnt understand, i felt the retard was smarter then she was at that point.

    retarded girl - best acted person in the movie, im serious. if she wasnt some real mentally challenged person you found to put in your movie i think she did a very good convincing job. diffenitly has future acting potential.

    fat guy - the fat guy with a tumor COULD have been used to a better extent perhaps completating what it means to die or some sort of parael to the zombies but it wasnt. he just kept reminding everyone he was a fat guy with a brain tumor.

    janitor and nice girl - these people seemed to have potential if you had given them better roles and better subplots.

    one thing you have to learn is to make a script interesting, people constantly bitching at each other for 150 minutes isnt interesting.

    kudos goes to the music and props which shows at least you put some effort into it.

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    now before people flame, which they no doubt will, its nice to see someone say they dont like something for once, when most people now adays are scared of the reaction they'll get and just go with the flow.

    varietys the spice of life guys.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dethhead
    i did not like your film at all, there were just so many things wrong with it.

    *the camera and editing comes to mind instantly, the constant distortion in sound is heard during the entire movie and becomes distracting when you cut to different characters. and im pretty sure i heard the camera man breathing on more then one occasion.

    *read a book on cinematography there were times characters were completely washed in white and others times in black.

    *the biggest complaint i have is with the script and story, first off most of the characters are just plain not nice and i find it hard to feel for them. i cant even remember their names they were that forgetable, ill just refer to them by the characteristics you felt necessary to distinguish them with.

    angry bitch - that goth chick who acted like she had a stick up her ass the entire movie SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE MAIN CHARACTER which she clearly was, there was one point were she says something stupid like 'i cant believe your turning on me' or some **** like that, well no **** it may have just dawned on you that people dont like angry goth bitches who think the are better then everyone else. or those 5 minutes she spent trying to convince A MENTALLY RETARDED PERSON something and got angry that she didnt understand, i felt the retard was smarter then she was at that point.

    retarded girl - best acted person in the movie, im serious. if she wasnt some real mentally challenged person you found to put in your movie i think she did a very good convincing job. diffenitly has future acting potential.

    fat guy - the fat guy with a tumor COULD have been used to a better extent perhaps completating what it means to die or some sort of parael to the zombies but it wasnt. he just kept reminding everyone he was a fat guy with a brain tumor.

    janitor and nice girl - these people seemed to have potential if you had given them better roles and better subplots.

    one thing you have to learn is to make a script interesting, people constantly bitching at each other for 150 minutes isnt interesting.

    kudos goes to the music and props which shows at least you put some effort into it.
    I'm sorry you feel that way, I was seventeen when I made it, it got me a kick ass mark in school. And for all of its faults of which there are many, I love all 1 hour and fifty minutes of hard work, heart break, and bloody fun we had making it. And if you can do better, by all means send me your movie and I'll do nothing but praise it.
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    Damn straight man. We all have to start somewhere, we all have to learn things, we all want to have fun - and that's the most important part. I'm just glad there's still people like you out there giving it a go and having fun with it. Some people are just too picky without taking into account the background of the project itself.

    Having fun, that's the main thing. Kudos man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dethhead
    i did not like your film at all, there were just so many things wrong with it.

    *the camera and editing comes to mind instantly, the constant distortion in sound is heard during the entire movie and becomes distracting when you cut to different characters. and im pretty sure i heard the camera man breathing on more then one occasion.

    *read a book on cinematography there were times characters were completely washed in white and others times in black.

    *the biggest complaint i have is with the script and story, first off most of the characters are just plain not nice and i find it hard to feel for them. i cant even remember their names they were that forgetable, ill just refer to them by the characteristics you felt necessary to distinguish them with.

    angry bitch - that goth chick who acted like she had a stick up her ass the entire movie SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE MAIN CHARACTER which she clearly was, there was one point were she says something stupid like 'i cant believe your turning on me' or some **** like that, well no **** it may have just dawned on you that people dont like angry goth bitches who think the are better then everyone else. or those 5 minutes she spent trying to convince A MENTALLY RETARDED PERSON something and got angry that she didnt understand, i felt the retard was smarter then she was at that point.

    retarded girl - best acted person in the movie, im serious. if she wasnt some real mentally challenged person you found to put in your movie i think she did a very good convincing job. diffenitly has future acting potential.

    fat guy - the fat guy with a tumor COULD have been used to a better extent perhaps completating what it means to die or some sort of parael to the zombies but it wasnt. he just kept reminding everyone he was a fat guy with a brain tumor.

    janitor and nice girl - these people seemed to have potential if you had given them better roles and better subplots.

    one thing you have to learn is to make a script interesting, people constantly bitching at each other for 150 minutes isnt interesting.

    kudos goes to the music and props which shows at least you put some effort into it.
    Oh gosh dethhead. You have left me no choice but to critique your critique out of boredom, and because your criticism is completely pointless and unconstructive.

    Read a cinematography book? That's just mean. Besides a couple of scenes I thought he did just fine. Remember, he's not some big Hollywood producer with a big budget and amazing cameras, I'm sure you didn't keep that in mind though did you?

    I'm sorry to say, but I can't remember a lot of characters in Zombie films I've watched, so it's not really fair to say the characters are forgettable, maybe your memory is going on you?

    I don't think it's very nice at all to personally attack someone and call him "fat guy". Please grow up .

    Just because you didn't find the script interesting doesn't mean that others didn't. If you were trapped in a building with a whole bunch of strangers would you get along with them? I know I wouldn't. I don't think I'd be prancing around holding hands with them all and having a good time.

    At least he put some effort into the props and music? Are you saying he didn't put any effort into anything else? I certainly hope you are not, 155 minutes is enough of an effort on anyone’s part.

    In conclusion, I'd like to see you come up with something better. This film is 2 years old, and he did a pretty darn amazing job considering the little resources he had. If you can't critique constructively then please don't critique at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by livingdeadboy
    And if you can do better, by all means send me your movie and I'll do nothing but praise it.
    that was a very immature comment, i didnt like the movie troy either but its not like wolfgang peterson is gonna say 'you think you can do better?'

    Quote Originally Posted by xxStephy
    Read a cinematography book? That's just mean. Besides a couple of scenes I thought he did just fine. Remember, he's not some big Hollywood producer with a big budget and amazing cameras, I'm sure you didn't keep that in mind though did you?
    he doesnt need to be a big hollywood producer to know how to read, and why couldnt he had reshot the scenes in questions or cut them? 150mins it wouldnt have hurt since most of the scenes were pretty pointless anyhow.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxStephy
    Just because you didn't find the script interesting doesn't mean that others didn't. If you were trapped in a building with a whole bunch of strangers would you get along with them? I know I wouldn't. I don't think I'd be prancing around holding hands with them all and having a good time.
    i will argue with you till the end of time on this issue: 150 MINUTES ON CONSTANT BITCHING AT EACH OTHER IS NOT INTERESTING.
    you could have read a screenwriting book as well as a cinematography book too.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxStephy
    I certainly hope you are not, 155 minutes is enough of an effort on anyone’s part.
    quantity does NOT equal quality.

    also i forgot to mention that i hated the ending. all that time worring about them and in the end he just walks by them for god knows how long? just because he no longer cares doesnt mean the rules you set down in your universe change as well.

    please understand im not trying to flame here im just offering up my critique about the movie. i did think he did some things right but also thought he did some things wrong. if you guys are only going to attack my critique on the things i thought were wrong then its obvious your not taking an objective view on the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie
    Damn straight man. We all have to start somewhere, we all have to learn things, we all want to have fun - and that's the most important part. I'm just glad there's still people like you out there giving it a go and having fun with it. Some people are just too picky without taking into account the background of the project itself.

    Having fun, that's the main thing. Kudos man.
    Thanks for the kudos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dethhead
    i did not like your film at all, there were just so many things wrong with it.

    *the camera and editing comes to mind instantly, the constant distortion in sound is heard during the entire movie and becomes distracting when you cut to different characters. and im pretty sure i heard the camera man breathing on more then one occasion.

    *read a book on cinematography there were times characters were completely washed in white and others times in black.

    *the biggest complaint i have is with the script and story, first off most of the characters are just plain not nice and i find it hard to feel for them. i cant even remember their names they were that forgetable, ill just refer to them by the characteristics you felt necessary to distinguish them with.

    angry bitch - that goth chick who acted like she had a stick up her ass the entire movie SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE MAIN CHARACTER which she clearly was, there was one point were she says something stupid like 'i cant believe your turning on me' or some **** like that, well no **** it may have just dawned on you that people dont like angry goth bitches who think the are better then everyone else. or those 5 minutes she spent trying to convince A MENTALLY RETARDED PERSON something and got angry that she didnt understand, i felt the retard was smarter then she was at that point.

    retarded girl - best acted person in the movie, im serious. if she wasnt some real mentally challenged person you found to put in your movie i think she did a very good convincing job. diffenitly has future acting potential.

    fat guy - the fat guy with a tumor COULD have been used to a better extent perhaps completating what it means to die or some sort of parael to the zombies but it wasnt. he just kept reminding everyone he was a fat guy with a brain tumor.

    janitor and nice girl - these people seemed to have potential if you had given them better roles and better subplots.

    one thing you have to learn is to make a script interesting, people constantly bitching at each other for 150 minutes isnt interesting.

    kudos goes to the music and props which shows at least you put some effort into it.
    Hey, I'm a bit of a lurker when it comes to these film boards, but I've decided to throw my two pennies in, too.

    Let's put this movie into perspective:

    - Survivor's was made on, what I would guess to be, a shoe string budget, right? This means that Reese and his crew weren't using the best of the best equipment, nor did they have access to some of the more technical equipment that would be needed. Now, I understand where you are coming from; sometimes the sound was a little drained out and yeah, the picture did vary quite a lot with white-outs and black-outs. But with the resources available, I think that he did a damn fine job!

    - As for the cinematography book, I think he should read one too. Simply because it will broaden his horizons, open up more options and give him more to work with. But apart from that, I think, through trial and error, his future productions will have improved.

    - The characters. I agree, at times, the characters did become quite tedious. They did appear quite 2D at times, though with the amount of characters involved, it was hard to develope them to a great degree. Though, you did try to show some evolution in the characters, which shows more promise in your writing.

    Also, do they characters really have to be nice? I understand what you are saying, beyond Mopboy there wasn 't really anybody to identify with as the out-right hero. Good! This can keep an audience on its toes as to who will bite the dust next.

    Again let's put this into perspective with Romero's Dead films. Everyone of his characters in pretty much all of his dead films are 2D - beyond Roger in Dawn (in my opinion). There are mere glimpses of another side to the character but they are never explored and never garner any more interest. But hell, I still enjoy his films (well, Day and Land I'll shut up about!)

    I DO agree with your comments on Tumour boy (I don't remember his name!). There could have been interesting developments in how he views his own impending death, or like you said, a paralell with the zombies. BUT! Instead, he has accepted his condition and realises that either way he is dead.

    One thing that I dislike in zombies films, in general, is that when a character is mobbed by the living dead they don't seem to be resisting very hard. To me, a scene in which a character is fighting desperately, despite being pinned, and they are screaming for help, in fear and in frustration at being helpless, is quite shocking. Of course, the character rarely wins these exchanges, but the brutality of the scene could leave the audience in shock and awe.

    At first, I though Mopboy was going to fight back as a mob descended upon him, I was pretty sad/****ed(!) he didn't though.

    - The story itself was your basic living dead tale - a group of people trapped inside a building while the dead attack from the outside. So, dethhead, where the Hell is the complaint!

    - The actors themselves, I think, did a great job. Now, I'm not saying that they were extraordinary actors, but I do think they did the film a huge service. I'll assume that the cast is simply a group of friends, rather than auditioned actors. If this were my film, I'd find it impossible to get my friends to act on screen--they'd be too embarrassed, too shy and impossible to work with! Jesus, even a camera at a party causes contraversary after a while!

    I'm not here to **** on your opinions dethhead, infact far from that, I just don't think you realise how much of an undertaking this film is/was for such a young and inexperienced cast and crew.

    Hopefully, my short film (i don't think I'm capable of such an epic just yet!) get's made this Summer, it'll be interesting to see if you tear my piece/love a new ass hole too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by livingdeadboy
    Thanks for the kudos!
    Some critisism is needed for EVERY movie EVER made. One can pick out flaws or make suggestions about every movie ever made. But, when you start picking at them too much, then, the ability to enjoy movies is no longer there. This Master Critic (dethhead) is probably the kind of person that is looking for "the Perfect Movie" whether its an indie or a mainstream. That movie does not exist.
    I personally enjoyed your project (and I'm one of those nit-pickers, if that tells you something) and so has everyone I've shown it to. Of course, we make suggestions or point out "shoulda haves", but the "read a book" comment(s) made by Master Critic (dethhead) was uncalled for. Would Roger Ebert or Gene Shalit say something so snide or base? No.
    Getting ideas from "Books on movie-making" is a great idea as long as you stick with YOUR original visions and ideas and don't start jumping on the bandwagon like so many of todays artists. (Peter *cough* Jackson)
    One can critique without appearing to have the childish intention of belittling the film-maker.
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    And also - for f*ck sake - the film is 1 hour and 50 minutes long, not 150 minutes (which is 2 hours and 30 minutes), sorry, but that was just p*ssing me off. There's constructive criticism and then there's just being mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie
    There's constructive criticism and then there's just being mean...
    EXACTLEY!!

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