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Thread: Diary can't take place the same time as Night.

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    Diary can't take place the same time as Night.

    Diary and Night don't take place at the same time afterall. Diary takes place in late October, but Night took place some time in the spring (right after the clocks went forward). Then again they're listening to the same radio reports as Ben, Barbra, the Coopers, et al did. Did anyone else notice this?
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    Not to mention that Diary took place 40years after Night.
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    right from day one romeros said diarys a stand alone zombie fim in a completely different universe to the other zombie films he's done, theres no continuity or connection to the dead tetralogy, 'nuff said.


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    I never heard that rumor...

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    I think the original post is refering to interviews with Romero in which he said that it's on the first night of the outbreak. Around the same time as Night. So some people took it to mean that the events in Diary are parallel to the events in Night.

    But he also said that it's an entirely different universe(like ALL the films, imo). So I can see where the OP got confused...

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    I know he said that it's a stand alone story but he sure seems to go out of his way to imply otherwise in his flms. Why use the same news reports then? I can see that he might have wanted to give long time fans a thrill but it confuses other people. This is not the first time he's been vauge either. If all you've seen is dawn or day you would get the impression that only bites bring people back. If you saw Night then you would know that's not true.

    And yes I'm aware that in the opening scene of dawn the scientists says that "every dead body that is not exterminated gets up and kills. The people it kills get up and kill." However, there's so much chaos that it's hard to pick up, i sure didn't at first. My point is that its far from explicitly stated.

    Furthermore, If the first 3 are indeed stand alone films the progression of the plauge from one film to the next points to a link between them. You get the sense that it's the same catastrophe only from different perspectives and at different points of the phenomenon. In night there are way more humans than ghouls. In dawn the numbers start about even steven and end up skewed heavily towards the ghouls and in day its basically armegedon. Maybe they're not related in storyline but certainly in timeline. (By the way, How's that day comes before land debate going nowdays guys? lol)
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    Damn it, Darth! Don't start another timeline dispute. I don't think I can handle another one.

    But yeah, Romero has been pretty vauge about it all. I think the news reports are just a nod to the fans kind of like Blades/Machete Zombie in Land.

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    it was just fan service, simple as.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    it was just fan service, simple as.
    And what fan in their right mind DOESN'T want to be "serviced"?
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    "All i care about is money and the city that I'm from, imma sip until I feel it, Imma smoke it till' it's done, I don't really give fuck and my excuse is that I'm young,and I'm only getting older, sombody shoulda told ya, I'm on one !"

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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    And what fan in their right mind DOESN'T want to be "serviced"?
    *walks in*
    Is this the line for fans to be serviced?

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    What's so hard to get? Each movie is set the time that they're made (undisclosed, though, it may be - but with all the technology and social issues of that particular era) - only the zombie phenomenon has progressed further in each subsequent installment.
    "28 Days Later came out after we started (Dawn 04). Our zombies were running before we knew what their zombies were." - Zack Snyder, LIAR.

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    It's not har to get. . .I agree with you there Griff. But be careful with this thread guys, It is teetering into the "timeline" argument again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    it was just fan service, simple as.
    Proof is on the DVD Audio commentary


    Chapter 13, Time: 51:00 give or take a few seconds. During the scene where we hear the old newscast from NOTLD, George himself mentions its directly lifted AND jounalist were questioning him why by the 4th film (Land) the zombies were pretty smart & in Diary they're stupid again...he basically said 'this is the beginning, when it all started' during the original Night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandrock74 View Post
    *walks in*
    Is this the line for fans to be serviced?
    I hope so, and I hope the service is good. I would like to be serviced by #9 thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Proof is on the DVD Audio commentary


    Chapter 13, Time: 51:00 give or take a few seconds. During the scene where we hear the old newscast from NOTLD, George himself mentions its directly lifted AND jounalist were questioning him why by the 4th film (Land) the zombies were pretty smart & in Diary they're stupid again...he basically said 'this is the beginning, when it all started' during the original Night.

    It's definitely a reset to the series. He took it as far as he could with land and a lot of fans didn't agree where he took the series. The ghouls were always relatively "smart". The could use tools and such and in some cases figure out certain simple problems. However, it was all in the pursuit of getting food. Big daddy didn't even look like he was interested in feeding. Even bub wanted to feed on human flesh. I know the old line "We're them and they're us" but me thinks they were too much like us, to the point where they weren't even scary anymore. They seemed more interested in finding a vacation spot than nything else.

    Both diary and land are missing something but i can't quite put my finger on it.
    FEAR IS THE OLDEST TOOL OF POWER. IF WE ARE DISTRACTED BY THE FEAR OF THOSE AROUND US THEN IT KEEPS US FROM SEEING THE ACTIONS OF THOSE ABOVE US.

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